From June 20 to June 24, 2002 Vladimir Kramnik and Viswanathan Anand played
an Advanced Chess Match in Leon, Spain. In
Advanced
Chess both players are allowed to consult a computer, using databases and
chess programs to analyse the position. In León they used ChessBase and the
chess programs Fritz and Junior. Each player has one hour for the whole game.
The event was won by Kramnik, who won game three – all the other games were
drawn. Immediately after the match he answered questions on Advanced Chess, his
upcoming match against Deep Fritz and the general situation in the chess world.
This video interview will appear in ChessBase Magazine 89. We bring you excerpts
here. A full report on the Advanced Chess even in León 2002 can be found here.
CBM 89 interview with Vladimir Kramnik (Part one)
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What is your general impressions of Advanced Chess?
It's a different kind of chess, actually. It's easier to
play, because you have to just find the right direction and the computer
does the entire tactical work for you. You spend less energy than in a
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How did you adapt to the new situation?
I have worked with computer programs for many years
already, so I know when to listen to it and when not. The main problem is
that you have a limited amount of time. When you work and prepare you have
as much time as you want. If a position is interesting you can spend half
an hour on it. In these games you have to stop where you need to stop and
continue where you need to continue. For instance in the second game in a
very critical position where I could get an advantage with a precise move
I played too quickly.
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A training session before the match
Which was your best game?
Games three and game five were my best games. In game five I played quite
well and he made a couple of inaccurate moves. Then he got into serious trouble
but he started to defend very well, which is what he usually does, even without
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How come there were five draws in this match?
Well, I'm surprised that it was not six draws. It is
very difficult to win a game in Advanced Chess, and I don't understand why
there were so many decisive games in previous years. Even without a
computers, as you know it is quite difficult to win a game against a
player like me or Anand. Remember Mainz 2001, with eight draws out of ten.
With a computer, which checks for blunders it is even more difficult.
Against a player like Vishy to win one game is an achievement. I was close
to winning two game, that that would have been a great success. Also with
faster time controls there could be more decisive games, but of course
that also means the level is going down.
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What is your opinion of the level of play with a computer?
Of course it is much higher than myself without the computer.

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How would you fare with the computer against a
player like Leko, Topalov or Anand if they were not using a computer?
I would win, of course, and the other way around also.
I cannot give you an exact performance rating, but it makes a huge
difference. In classical chess it would probably be less profitable, but
even there it makes a serious difference. In one-hour or 30 minute games
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Kasparov said (after the first Advanced Chess match) that Topalov with a
computer would crush him without a computer.
Yes, I agree. I never tried it, and I wouldn't like to do so. Maybe somebody
else can go for this experiment. I don't know about "crush". It
depends on style. I think that my style is so solid that even if someone is
playing with a computer I can fight. But only fight and lose with a respectable
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Exhausted after game six in León
How about a giant Internet qualification event including amateurs for
next year's Advanced Chess?
Well, it makes sense. It is clear that with the computer the difference in
playing strength is reduced. Normally I can beat a player of 2600 without great
difficulty, but if we both have a computer it is already not so easy. At the
highest level it is not just about understanding, the very top players are also
better at everything - calculation, imagination. With the computer that is no
longer so useful.
How about computers vs humans with computers? Do you think you could
easily beat Fritz if you were allowed to use Fritz yourself?
Well, no question about that. Actually I hope I can manage to do it without
using Fritz. But with it's help - maybe you can arrange to conduct this
experiment.

How are your feelings about playing Fritz in Bahrain?
I don't know really. I will start my preparations maybe in August. The
experiment is quite difficult, psychologically. I still need to see the
development of this program, what is going on there.
You are watching the development, since you are getting new versions all
the time. Do you see improvements?
I am sure there will be big improvements, because I can see that every new
version is getting better and better, and I'm sure the Bahrain version will be
better than the last commercial one. But that is not even the point. I know that
it is going to be better, but I need to find out in what sense, in what kind of
positions it is going to be better. That is very important to understand.

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What is the main weakness of Fritz?
Well, maybe after the match I will tell you (laughs).
You don't want to help us now?
No, no. I think that Fritz is strong enough as it is
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Frederic Friedel