Khalid & Sophie talk with Anish & Jorden

by André Schulz
2/2/2023 – The two Dutch top players Anish Giri and Jorden van Foreest once again cut a very good figure in the Tata Steel Chess Masters. Anish Giri even managed to beat Magnus Carlsen and win the tournament for the first time. On Tuesday evening, the two chess grandmasters were guests on the popular Dutch talk show "Khalid & Sophie" and explained how chess and chess training works.

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"Khalid & Sophie" is a relatively new talk show format of the Dutch broadcaster BNNVARA. The TV producer was created in 2011 from the merger of the broadcasters VARA (Vereeniging van Arbeiders Radio Amateurs) and BNN (Bart's Neverending Network).

The popular talk show "Khalid & Sophie" has existed in this form since 30 August 2021 and is broadcast live on weekdays on NPO 1 (one of three nationwide public broadcasters of the Nederlandse Publieke Omroep). Initially, the show was broadcast from the Westergasterrein in Amsterdam, but has since moved to NPO's media parks in Hilversum.

The hosts of the talk show are Sophie Hilbrand and Khalid Kasem. On Tuesday, Anish Giri and Jorden van Foreest were guests on the show. Both are winners of the Tata Steel Chess Tournament, the flagship of Dutch tournament chess. Jorden van Foreest won the tournament two years ago and Anish Giri won this year's tournament, the first time he could win this prestigious event. On his way to the title, the Dutch number one defeated World Champion Magnus Carlsen and overtook long-time leader Nodirbek Abdusattorov in a thrilling finish.

Before the moderators started the conversation with the two chess grandmasters, they showed videos with impressions from the Tata Steel Chess Tournament and videos showing the two chess players in private. Among other things, Jorden van Foreest could be seen training with his younger sister Machteld.

In the following conversation, the Giri and van Foreest talked about their lives as chess professionals and cut a fine figure - as smart young men who practice an interesting and unusual sport.


André Schulz started working for ChessBase in 1991 and is an editor of ChessBase News.