Interview with Alik Gershon and Igor Nor
Authors of English Federation Book of the Year "San Luis 2005"
San
Luis 2005 has been said to set new publishing standards by critics and
seen as a logical continuation of a long tradition of tournament books, positioning
itself in a small group of great titles such as St Petersburg 1909 (Lasker),
New York 1924, New York 1927 (both Alekhine) and Zurich 1953 (Bronstein). Some
have even gone as far as to call it better than Zurich 1953 or the best chess
book seen. After such a response from the critics it was not a surprise that
the book unanimously won highest honour in chess publishing, the English Chess
Federations book of the year. But as we shall learn below, the authors in no
way thought the deal was in the bag.
San Luis 2005 is clearly a labour of love, but also a monster in terms
of the effort put into it. What brought about this book? From where did the
project arise?
Igor Nor: The most accurate way to put it would be: “it came
from nowhere”. It was a very unusual day when two old friends had, quite unexpectedly,
the same positive mood. One of them offered to do a lot of analysis and the
other, unlike on many other occasions when the same idea came from the same
guy, boldly calling himself “trainer”, didn’t refuse…
Alik Gershon: Yeah, back then I was running a (Hebrew) chess
website, and the idea of being the first ever to conduct a unique, real time
analysis of a major event in Hebrew looked charming. The problem was that this
spontaneous-patriotic plan, as some of Igor’s ideas, had some tactical difficulties.
To begin with, there were only a couple of days left before the beginning of
the tournament and we hadn’t even discussed the format of how it should look,
not to mention the content itself. Fortunately, we both have quite an exhaustive
in commenting chess, not to mention of working together. So those problems were
successfully solved, mostly by way of ignoring them, and getting some sleep
hours, that would surely be missed for the period to come.
Igor Nor: At some point, after a few rounds, we discovered
an interesting phenomenon: people liked what we did. It couldn’t be a complete
surprise, but the proportions were unexpected.
Alik Gershon: Speaking ahead, this strange feeling of people
appreciating our work much more than in our most optimistic prognoses become
the normal condition. But at the time we were happy to see thousands of visitors
on the website and printouts of the analysis in most unexpected places (some
chess clubs, for instance), various forums discussions on the subject etc. In
fact it was very exciting to see chess players sitting with the printouts and
checking every sick idea we had during night analysis (the games, as you might
recall, were played at night in Europe). Already during the tournament we started
hearing suggestions to write a book, because “this is hot stuff”….

Igor Nor and Alik Gershon, the authors of "San Luis 2005"
Igor Nor: Then after the tournament some very good friends
of ours said very strictly that either we should make a book or someone else
will, with our analysis. We didn’t really know what the laws state here and
by no means wanted to find out. So immediately after the end of the championship
we somehow found ourselves in the middle of making our first book. This book
could resemble the greatest games of Anatoly Karpov, where he would simply be
solving problems as they were coming, but from outside it might look like there
was this deep plan…
Alik Gershon: ….like some of my more fortunate chess games…
Of course, as a part of the “plan”, our old friend GM Arthur Kogan called me
and asked a very strange question: “why don’t you make the book in English?”
Since we couldn’t answer this one as well, we used the fact that he knew Jacob
Aagaard from the Quality Chess, a company we had heard a lot about
to ask him the same question.
Igor Nor: And Jacob was so enthusiastic…
Alik Gershon: Well… he agreed to see some of our analysis,
but at the same time he did his best not to give us extra hopes, to say the
least. This might be an appropriate moment to mention that the team of Quality
Chess did not only help us a lot during the writing, but also were very straightforward
in all aspects, including the economical one. Sadly enough, this is a kind of
rarity, but one we would be happy to meet as much as possible.
Igor Nor: Absolutely. But meanwhile we were waiting for their
decision and the fact it didn’t come immediately could only mean something good.
As we waited, I was trying to convince Alik and myself that the book was almost
ready and we only need to translate it to English. In fact, at that time it
looked as the most problematic “remaining thing”.

The World Championship tournament in San Luis 2005
Alik Gershon: Yes, if my memory serves me right, we also told
QCB that the book was “over 80% finished”. Looking back, translating was the
least difficult thing. The point is that when I have completely adopted to the
free style of life in Israel, my friend is, unfortunately, one of the successors
of the old Russian chess-school. Meaning, there has always been only one reason
for which the analysis could be paused and it is complete inability of the participants
to continue. And this pause exists only in order to continue on the next day,
and so on, until the mission is complete. So when we got a positive answer from
Jacob, for me it felt like going to chess-prison for a while.
Igor Nor: Well, Alik exaggerates, of course. Indeed, he was
never the biggest fan of hard work (in my opinion, this is one of the reason
he wasn’t close to being one of the participant of this tournament), but still
we made a lot of analysis during the 10 years we have know each other, so there
was nothing new for us.
How was it to write a book together? What were the advantages and what
were the disadvantages?
Alik Gershon: As Igor said, it wasn’t so new for us. He brought
his knowledge, and the guy read a book or two in his life (in fact, he is reading
everything he can get, including all possible websites. Spooky, really.). I
tried to concentrate more on the struggling parts of the games and the endgames.
So for me the main disadvantage was that we had too many debates that made me
work real hard to be able to prove my opinion.
Igor Nor: For me it was very positive. Alik’s rating is lower
than it should be and his help in many cases was very useful. Of course, our
characters fits together just great – when one likes white, the other likes
black and those symposia’s could be changed every move.

Michael Adams vs Judit Polgar, with Vishy Anand in the background
Alik Gershon: Yeah, for a few months we’ve become like a tired
couple, arguing on every occasion they have. In a good sense, of course. Paradoxically,
the general approach to the book was clear. Igor has a lot of tournament books…
Igor Nor: Including some English readers would never believe
exist… For instance, in most of the years each Interzonal tournament had his
own book (Brasilia and Leningrad 73, Riga and Rio de Janeiro 1979 and so on)
and it couldn’t be forgotten how interesting they were to read.
Alik Gershon: So we just tried to adopt the best things from
all books we saw, and add our special touch with sugar on top.
Which games would you single out as the most important in the tournament,
and what were the deciding moments?
Igor Nor: From the chess point of view I remember well the
game Topalov-Anand from the second round. Strictly speaking, no one understood
it. From the point the theory finished until the end, it looked like all the
commentators were walking in the dark, mostly trying to guess what was going
on. The temptation to adopt this approach was big (no one will even try to refute
it), but we decided to go very slowly, move after move and discover the ideas
behind each and every move. Other games that were absolutely disastrous for
analysing were those of Alexander Morozevich. He usually plays so technically,
but complex and unforcing chess. To work out what is going on is always difficult.
Morozevich-Polgar was a game it took a lot of time to make sense of.

Veselin Topalov vs Vishy Anand in San Luis 2005
Alik Gershon: I personally can’t forget the very first tournament
game, when at some point we have found that his majesty Kasparov, probably the
greatest genius of our game (and analysis!) made some mistakes, which we found
after a long way. Also Svidler-Kasimdzhanov is a memorable one – it alone could
probably make a small book, but all in all, every single game was something
special, in general, and to us, and I think this is what really makes for the
book – there is no “garbage time”.
You are both from Israel and speak Russian. How was the experience of
writing in English? One could imagine that it did not come naturally? Also,
to what extend did Quality Chess’ team influence the process?
Igor Nor: Alik is generally better in languages, except Russian.
The gap between us in English is pretty substantial, so he sometimes had to
translate me into a better English. But it wasn’t a problem for him – he knows
the languages I know, so usually it wasn’t difficult for him to understand my
intentions.
Alik Gershon: Yes, and after this translation, the Quality
Chess guys translated it again from my good English to something, lets
say, more traditional, something other people would understand as well. And
it was done quite effectively – after we saw the “fixed” version, we couldn’t
believe that it wasn't us using those words… QCB managed to relay it all as
genuinely as possible. We think that the editing was very impressive.

Peter Svidler at a press conference, with Rustam Kasimdzhanov in the background
Igor Nor: Completely agree. The interesting fact is that at
the beginning, when we got the first set of “correctness’s” from Jacob Aagaard,
we were amazed how many ideas he got. But most of them were chess related, so
we even thought for a moment that the language was ok. Then John Shaw got to
work and the result is twofold: the book became a success and John hates us
now. But it is important to mention that the book we got so many complements
for is a common work of many people, not only the authors.
San Luis 2005 has been compared by many to Zurich 1953 and is according
to a former British Champion the best chess book he has ever seen. What do
you think about this reception and to what extend did you expect it?
Alik Gershon: Well, “better than Bronstein” is too much. I
think this is the book we both like the most and we strongly believe those comparisons
are not in place. Bronstein of those days was one of the best players in the
world and this probably puts an end to this discussion. But, of course, having
such an amazing example of a tournament book could not help but influence our
writing. And to me, the very fact people speak of these two books in the same
breath is already a fantastic achievement for us.
Igor Nor: Well, for me Bronstein’s book was the first book
I read, I think I can retell entire chapters in exact words. Again, we took
all the best from other books, and some of our ideas and used all the modern
utilities to show the tournament from its best side. There was not even one
publication about the tournament we weren’t familiar with… It would have taken
an even bigger effort to write a bad book than it did to write a good one. More
interesting is the expectation about this book. While trying your best book,
even having a huge experience of reading, you can never know what, in fact,
will be the reaction. Many times we asked ourselves isn’t it too deep or are
there too many explanations? (I remember a very tired Alik saying with his last
leftovers of politeness: “who do you think will read such a deep analysis?”)…
Alik Gershon: And at the end a lot of them were left out of
the book. So I was right…
Igor Nor: Only partially: it is easier to remove things when
you have found the truth than the opposite… Anyway, we are not so young anymore
and it was clear we are not the first to think how to make the book the most
interesting for the readers. So there is a good chance we also will not be the
first to fail to do so. Thus at some point we just decide to adopt the old saying
of the great Freddie Mercury “Talent will out, my dears”. For us it meant that
if we will be good enough to make ourselves happy about this book, there will
hopefully be other people who will not be able to ignore such a serious effort.

Alexander Morozevich in San Luis
Alik Gershon: And you can take our word for it, that to make
us happy, especially one of us, is such a difficult task, that the Freddie assumption
had to work in this case. We worked a lot to bring this book to a condition
we could both agree was “OK”, but then the Quality chess guys got into the picture
and made us work even more. After all this, we were just too tired to think
the book could fail.
This is your first chess book. With the reception it has received it
is natural to ask if you are wanting to go on further adventures in the world
of chess writing, or if you have had enough.
Igor Nor: Further…
Alik Gershon: Enough…
Igor Nor: Well, we are not completely agreed here and need
to think…
Alik Gershon: In fact at this moment we have interesting ideas,
but I still need to be convinced that working on those projects is not going
to ruin our personal lives.
Let us go back a bit. You speak about old tournament books and about
taking what is best from these for San Luis 2005. Why do you think that tournament
books went out of fashion, and do you think that the success of San Luis 2005
marks the beginning of a revival? (Already we have seen Topalov and his team
write about the Elista match and Bareev write about Kramnik’s matches.)
Alik Gershon: In Russian those books never stopped. At some
point in the 90s they almost hadn’t published any at all, but when they survived
the crisis the book returned. Even Kasparov-Kramnik match got a book by GM Sergey
Shipov. And probably another reason is that in those years Kasparov dominated
so mightily that most of the matches were irrelevant from the sporting point
of view.

Peter Svidler, the Grandmaster from St Petersburg
Igor Nor: In my opinion, the right question is why those books
didn’t succeed. The immodest answer is that no one wanted to work hard enough
to make his book a qualitative one. It seems that there are too many authors
that are convinced that it is enough they are writing something to attract people.
We didn’t have this mania before this success and we don’t have it now. At the
same time I must admit that in my opinion the tournament books are to be rated
above all other chess books. My first trainer always told me not to copy any
opening top players use unless they do it in the most important events. The
reason is: only in those events will the best players show their secrets. If
Kasparov game after game avoids the Marshal, he has a reason and the other players
will know it too. Hence this opening is worth playing. If it was dodgy Kasparov
would show the problematic line.
Alik Gershon: Take San Luis for example, where some positions
proved themselves as success stories, and some will probably not be played anymore
on the high level (like in Kasimdzhanov-Anand, Svidler-Topalov and so on…).
But what is most important for me is the great tension in those tournaments.
Not just “another” Berlin in yet another round robin. This is money time, and
that brings some interesting, previously hidden qualities out of the players.
Let us try to jump forward a bit. The tournament in San Luis 2005 was
meant to be the tournament that healed the chess world, but it didn’t. Then
the match in Elista was supposed to do the same, but when Kramnik won it was
suddenly Topalov who was left out of the Mexico World Championship. Now we
will have three matches to decide the ultimate World Champion once again.
What is your opinion on the current state of affairs in the chess world?
Alik Gershon: At this moment there is a clear world champion,
and it is Anand. Everybody, including Kramnik, agree with it, and this situation
would most likely not have happened without the San Luis tournament. Hopefully,
after the current cycle there will finally be order.
Igor Nor: I might surprise some, but I really think that this
intermediate temporary cycle is the best we can have. Unlike some respectable
gentlemen (Mark Dvoretsky, for example), I don’t believe in all those knock-outs
and I think chess needs an undisputed king. So the match at the end looks as
the most appropriate way to avoid an accidental champion. Same time, a round
robin looks like the best way to find a good candidate. Moreover, it could be
a good idea to allow the champion to participate in the candidates tournament
– so he will be able to prevent a match if he wins. The same happened this time,
but by mistake…

Peter Leko, Hungary's top player and former world championship challenger
Alik Gershon: Nigel Short will probably say here that anything
good FIDE is able to do is by mistake (of course, he will say it in a more fancy
way). Personally, I don't think there is one perfect system, neither for chess
fans, nor for the players as a whole. The bottom line, it's all down to the
participants. Some feel more comfortable with one system, some with the other
– it will always be this way. I suspect nobody could claim the KK matches,
starting with their second one, to be boring, even though they weren't played
with fast time controls, and even with adjournments (and none of them could
be knocked out after two games), but then you have their first match, and Brissago...
All in all, what the system has to take care of is to allow the most appropriate
candidates at least to have a chance to play against the champion, and to allow
for that champion, coming out of this system to feel legitimate.
Igor Nor: And this was not the situation a few years ago while
Kasparov was still playing…
The three judges in the English Chess Federations Book of the Year committee
had the following to say about San Luis 2005:
Tournament books have been an integral and important part of chess literature.
They show both how chess was played and how it could be played. Three classics
spring to mind: New York 1924 by Alekhine, Moscow-Leningrad 1942
by Botwinnik and Zurich 1953 by Bronstein. The latter is regarded
by many as the best chess book ever written. However in the last two decades
tournament books have become rare events, no doubt due to the work involved
in this computer age.
San Luis 2005, an exceptional tournament which saw Topalov crowned
as FIDE World Champion, deserved a permanent record. The two authors have
put in a tremendous effort, seeking to find a correct analytical evaluation
of every game. But there is much more to the book than that: forewords by
Veselin Topalov and Nigel Short, the latter being sharply observant as always,
a preface by Mihail Marin and various end papers which both salute Topalov’s
victory and vigorously debunk conspiracy theories.
San Luis would probably have won Book of the Year 2007 on the strength of
the above alone, but it is greatly enhanced by the production values. The
numerous photographs both in and out of the tournament hall are exceptional
and give the reader a real insight into the tournament environment.
All in all, a splendid book which matches its great predecessors in analytical
content but far exceeds them in presentation and layout. This is an outstanding
book in every way.
San Luis 2005 is for sale in Europe for 29.99 euro, in the UK for 19.99
pounds and in the US for 39.95 dollars at most outlets. It is also available
at Quality Books. An excerpt
of the book (PDF, 321 Kb) can be found at this
link.