What to do against the Queen's Gambit - an interview with Robert Ris

by Johannes Fischer
2/24/2017 – In round four of the Fide Grand Prix tournament in Sharjah Shakriyar Mamedyarov won an energetic game against Michael Adams' Queen's Gambit Declined. A game ChessBase author and International Master Robert Ris followed with great joy. After all, Mamedyarov played an opening Ris also favors and recommended on one of his DVDs. In a short interview Ris talks about this line and about openings and opening research in general.

This DVD offers a complete repertoire for handling this solid opening, often featuring a dynamic approach to pose the opponent more practical problems. Both of the main continuations 3...Nf6 and 3...Be7 are covered in two separate parts.

Talking about the Queen's Gambit - an interview with Robert Ris

Dear Robert, you are an International Master, a commentator and an author. On one of your ChessBase DVDs you recommend to play the Exchange Variation against the Queen’s Gambit Declined. In round 4 of the Fide Grand Prix tournament in Sharjah, Shakriyar Mamedyarov followed your recommendation and won a spectacular game against Michael Adams.

 
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1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 With two wins to chose between today, I arrived at the conundrum of seeming to either favour the a3-Queens Indian, or being a great fan of Mamedyarov. In the end I decided that the latter makes more sense, especially if he continues to play like this. e6 3.Nc3 d5 4.cxd5 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bf4 is the other variation that gives White some chances for an advantage. 4.Bg5 Be7 5.Nf3 h6! 6.Bh4 6.Bxf6 Bxf6 leads to well researched positions where Black should be able to equalize. 6...0-0 7.e3 Ne4 8.Bxe7 Qxe7 9.Rc1 c6 has a terribly solid reputation. 4...exd5 5.Bg5 c6 6.e3 h6 This move, which is rather uncommon, comes with a clear plan: to force the bishop to h4 and then exchange it with Be7/Nh5. After the exchange Black hopes to have won a tempo if White plays Qc2/Bd3, since there is no need to defende the h-pawn. 6...Bf5 7.Qf3 Bg6 8.Bxf6 Qxf6 9.Qxf6 gxf6 is another tabiya. White continues to score well from this position, but it's still unclear whether Black is actually worse. Playing "normally" with 6...Be7 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Nge2 and now something else than exchanging the bishops, like Nf8 has been tried by Mamedyarov from the Black side. However, these line have worse reputation that the early exchange of the dark squared bishops. After something like 9.0-0 Ne6 10.Bh4 0-0 the game revolves around moves like e3-e4, b2-b4 and c6-c5 and White seems to have greater freedom to lead the game in one or another directions. 7.Bh4 Be7 8.Bd3 Unless we consider Ne4 to be a threat, there seem to be little reason to favour 8.Qc2 , over Bd3. A recent game went Nbd7 9.Bd3 Nh5 10.Bxe7 Qxe7 11.0-0-0 Nb6 12.h3 Be6 13.Nf3 Nf6 14.Kb1 0-0-0 15.Nd2 Kb8 16.Nb3 Rhe8 17.f3 Nfd7 18.Rhe1 Rc8 19.Rc1 when Black was on a steady route to equality, in Tomashevsky,E (2725) -Adams,M (2740) 78th Tata Steel GpA 2016. 8...Nbd7 9.Nge2 Nh5 The only reason I can see for playing Qc2 before Bd3Nge2, is that Black has the option of playing 9...Ne4!? So, the question is how the position after 10.Bxe7 Nxc3 10...Qxe7?! 11.Bxe4 dxe4 12.Ng3 Nf6 13.Qc2± 11.Bxd8 Nxd1 12.Rxd1 Kxd8 13.f3 is to be evaluated. White has a clear plan in e3-e4 (and possibly g4/h4), whereas Black is somewhat passive. White ought to have a small advantage. 9...0-0?! 10.f3 Nh5 11.Bf2 gives White the extra option of 0-0-0 followed by a pawn storm on the kingside. 10.Bxe7 Qxe7 11.Qd2! This set-up, which aims to play f3 quickly, has been on my radar for quite some time and I even had the chance to play it before anyone else did. (See move 12) Nb6 After 11...0-0 my intention was to play 12.f3 12.0-0-0?! b5 13.Kb1 Nhf6 and Black is faster to create threats since it is hard to get g4 and h4 in: 14.f3 Re8! 15.e4 b4 12.0-0 Re8 13.Rae1 Nf8 and I fail to see a great continuation for White. 14.Nc1 Ne6 15.f3 b6 16.N1e2 seems to slow. 12...Re8 13.Kf2!? , but I don't know what Mamedyarov was planning. 12.f3 Had White's queen been on c2, this move would not have been possible. 12.0-0 0-0 13.f3 Be6 14.b3 Rac8 15.Rac1 c5 16.dxc5 Rxc5 17.Nd4 left me with a typical advantage, in Hillarp Persson,T (2520)-Merriman,J (2250) London Classic Open 2015. 12...Bd7 13.0-0! This move gives Black little choice but to evacuate the king to g8. 13.0-0-0 0-0-0 14.Rhe1 can also be considered, but the e3-e4 idea seem stronger with Black's king on the kingside. 13...0-0 Not 13...0-0-0?! 14.a4! and Black's king is in trouble. 14.g4!?
This move would make less sense if there was not a pawn on h6. Here it is quite principled and challenging. I am a bit puzzled and disappointed not to find it in my own preparations. My preparation, from a few years back, goes 14.Rae1 f5 15.Nf4! The "!" is from my old file, but perhaps 15.b3 is stronger. 15...Nxf4 16.exf4 Qf6 17.Re5 "with an initiative for White". 14...Nf6 15.Ng3 It is also promising to play 15.Nf4 , with similar ideas as in the game. One possibility is Ne8 16.Rae1 Nd6 17.e4 Qg5 18.Re2 dxe4 19.fxe4! and with Rg2/Qf2/h4 coming, Black is already in trouble. 15...Ne8 16.Rae1 Nd6 17.e4! A surprising and strong idea. White is even prepared to give up the g4-pawn in order to get a mobile center and some files. I'm happy I was not the one who had to face this, unprepared, over the board. dxe4 18.fxe4 Ndc4! Adams' move is possibly the strongest. After 18...Bxg4 19.e5! Ndc4 20.Qg2 White has a big attack with moves like Qe4 and Bf5. The engine is a fan of 18...Rad8 19.e5 Nb5 and indeed, that is a clear case of not passing the Turing Test. I would not take every chance to steer clear of something like 20.Qg2 Qg5 20...Qb4 21.Nxb5 cxb5 22.Qe4 g6 23.Rf6 21.Nxb5 cxb5 22.Nf5 Bxf5 23.Rxf5 Qe7 24.Re4 The engine assures that Black is only somewhat worse, but my gut is not convinced. 19.Qc1! Bxg4 20.b3 Rad8!? Adams decides to change the course of the game and it is a respectable decision. The alternatives look shaky: 20...Na5?! 21.Rf4 Qd7 22.Kh1 and with Rg1 coming down the aisle, Black should do his best to cancel this wedding. And after 20...Na3 21.e5 White has a huge initiative. 21.Nf5 White has plenty of ways to keep some advantage, but the ruined pawn structure will cut down White's winning chances. Perhaps the best way to continue is 21.bxc4 Rxd4 22.Be2 Bh3 23.Rf2 , followed by Bf1 and Nf5. In this way Black doesn't get to exchange a pair of rooks under favourable circumstances. 21...Bxf5 22.exf5 Qf6 23.Bxc4 Nxc4 24.bxc4 Qxd4+ 25.Kh1 Rfe8 26.f6! Rxe1 27.Qxe1 Qxc4 28.fxg7 28.Rg1?! g5 and White is unable to activate the knight without inviting simplifications (which will favour Black). 28...Rd6 White has a clear advantage, but where the technical obstacles are quite big. White's king is vulnerable to checks and Black has a pawn majority on the queenside that can be put in motion. White can probably not avoid the exchange of rooks, but it is important to do it at a good moment. 29.Rg1?! 29.Qe8+ Kxg7 30.Qe5+ 30.Rf3 Rf6 31.Qe5 Qe6 32.Rg3+ Kh7 33.Qb8 Rg6 34.Rxg6 Kxg6 35.Qxa7 is a more forcing way to get something similar to what happens in the game. 30...Kh7 31.Qf5+ Rg6 32.Qxf7+ Qxf7 33.Rxf7+ Rg7 34.Rxg7+ Kxg7 35.Kg2 Kf6 36.Kf3 Ke5 37.Ke3 and I'm not sure whether White's advantage is enough for a win. It should be. 29...Rg6 30.Qe5 30.Rxg6 fxg6 31.Kg2 Kxg7 32.Qe7+ Qf7 33.Qe3 30...Qe6 Here Adams had a chance to draw the game with 30...Qd3! , with the idea that 31.Rxg6 Qf1+ 32.Rg1 Qf3+ is a direct draw. Chess is a very difficult game, especially when you are short on time and even more so when you believe you are worse. 31.Qb8+! Kxg7 32.Qxa7! This little pawn makes all the difference in the endgame to come. Now Black's queenside pawns are much more prone to become weak. Qc4 33.Qe3 b5 34.a3 White doesn't have to keep the a-pawn since the h-pawn is all that is needed to win a knight vs no-knight endgame. c5 35.Ne4!? 35.Qe5+ Kh7 36.Re1 Qd3 37.Qe3 Qxe3 38.Rxe3 Rb6 39.Kg2 and winning becomes a matter of (advanced) technique. Mamedyarov's way is a better human route. 35...f5? A miscalculation in time trouble. Adams' last chance to fight back was 35...b4! , when 36.axb4 36.a4!? 36...cxb4 gives us a position that is very, very hard to win for White. 37.Rc1 Qd5! 38.Qf3 b3 39.Rb1 Rb6 40.Rd1 Qc6 41.Rg1+ Kf8 42.Qd3 Rb8 43.Qd4 Re8 and Black hangs on. 36.Rxg6+ Kxg6 37.Nxc5 Qd5+ Perhaps Adams missed that 37...Qf1+ 38.Qg1+ is check. 38.Kg1 Qd1+ 39.Kg2 Qd5+ 40.Kh3 The rest is easy. Qd1 41.Qe8+ Kf6 41...Kg5 42.Ne6+! Kf6 43.Qd8+ Qxd8 44.Nxd8 Ke5 45.Kg3 Ke4 46.Nf7 Ke3 47.Nxh6 f4+ 48.Kg2+- 42.Nd7+ Kg5 43.Qg8+ and facing Qg3+/Nf6+, followed by Qd6+ and Qxd1, it was time to resign.
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What did you think when you saw that game?

Hi Johannes. I truly enjoyed that game as well, particularly since I recorded a DVD on the current topic and it's always nice when the quality of your published material is approved by the World's best players.

Mamedyarov won a good game but this was just one game. Are there more fundamental reasons to play this line for White?

The setup with Bd3, Nge2, 0-0 followed by the central break f3 and e4 was a new approach by Botvinnik in his time. Later other players refined his play and you see that even today it has been considered the most challenging way to deal with the move order 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6. The fact that White's pieces are harmoniously working together, aiming to control the centre and build up an attack confirms the soundness of White's strategy.

Do you remember how you got interested in that line?

I think it was when I was around 15 years old, when I studied Kasparov's games. He followed this opening recipe from his mentor.

Garry Kasparov and Mihail Botvinnik

Back then I was a 1.e4 player but those games inspired me starting to experiment with 1.d4. Not much later when I totally switched `to 1.d4 I had to build a repertoire and started to work out the lines in more detail. 

You are a specialist for sharp gambit play but most grandmasters of today seem to prefer a more solid approach in the opening – after all, it is no coincidence that the Berlin is so popular. Why do the top grandmasters play it safe and solid?

There is simply too much information available for everyone. In majority of the cases they play it safe with Black and try to push with White. Fortunately for top-chess there are also a lot fighting players who dare leaving their comfort zone and take a risk.

Gambits often seem to be a kind of gamble – you hope to surprise the opponent in the opening by playing moves that may be dangerous but are objectively harmless if the opponent knows the right answer.

Well some gambits will probably not return in grandmaster games, but some are still working out well as a surprise weapon indeed. For example, Adhiban's play in Wijk aan Zee was absolutely refreshing. With so much information accessible opening preparation the suprise value of your opening choice has perhaps overtaken the objective quality of the moves or opening systems. Most of my students are struggling with this question, but I would recommend them to be confident about their opening systems as long as they have an idea of what they are doing!

You seem to like to play and research surprising, double-edged openings. Where do you get your inspirations for such openings?

Perhaps I shouldn't reveal too much of my own playing style, but anyway I'm not playing too much these days. But I have always liked to use a scientific approach to study chess openings, realizing it's perhaps not the most efficient way of improving as a player, but I simply like it too much. Hence, I have analysed the most obscure opening lines, but seldomly used them in practice. It's a personal issue that I don't have the courage to play such lines when I know it's too risky or simply incorrect. So, I better keep using this opening material for the Fast & Furious shows on PlayChess!

Can the average player today, in the time of heavy computer analysis, still find new ideas in the openings – or do you have to be an International Master or Grandmaster to do so? And if yes, how?

The good thing about being an average player is that, in my opinion, in most of the cases the game leaves theoretical paths earlier and original positions will be reached more often than in grandmasters games. And yes, when it comes down to preparation with engines I think the average player can discover new ideas too, why not? Both can follow the recommendations of the engine, but perhaps the main advantage of grandmasters they are better evaluating long-term play. So in tactical positions the average player shouldn't be any worse than a GM, but in positional type of play it may help the player to have a deeper understanding of the game.

Are there any players who you admire for their creative play in the opening?

Well, in general I like to see different type of players no matter the stage of the game. But when it comes down to creative opening play the names of Rapport, Mamedyarov and Jobava just spring to mind.

Baadur Jobava believes in creative opening play (Photo: Amruta Mokal)

Last question: what project are you currently working on?

Well my main project at the moment is not chess-related, as I just bought an apartment in Amstelveen, a city next to Amsterdam with 90.000 inhabitants, and I will move in there in next week! By the way, every year I organize in Amstelveen a chess week with different activities, including the Dutch Rapid Championships (http://cne-nkrapid.nl/). We are already preparing the event, which will take place in the last quarter of 2017. But besides that I do have my own Amsterdam Chess Academy as I'm involved in several chess promoting activities, teaching in primary schools, private clients and online training with students from all over the world. So, never a dull moment!

 

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Johannes Fischer was born in 1963 in Hamburg and studied English and German literature in Frankfurt. He now lives as a writer and translator in Nürnberg. He is a FIDE-Master and regularly writes for KARL, a German chess magazine focusing on the links between culture and chess. On his own blog he regularly publishes notes on "Film, Literature and Chess".

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