The Carlsen-Niemann Affair

by Albert Silver
9/8/2022 – In the last few days the chess world has been in enormous upheaval after the World Champion Magnus Carlsen withdrew from the Sinquefield Cup in protest after three rounds, with an unspoken accusation of cheating of the player who had defeated him, US rising star Hans Niemann. Lines were drawn, accusations made and defenses stated. Here is a full overview of both sides of this explosive controversy.

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It started all quite quietly. The classical stage of the Sinquefield Cup began with a few small surprises, with notably the American junior on the rise, Hans Niemann, being granted a wild card after Richard Rapport could not make it for Covid reasons. A rare and golden opportunity to brush shoulders (or knock heads as it turned out) with the greatest players of the day, including none other than the world No. 1 Magnus Carlsen.

Who is Hans Niemann?

For many outsiders, the name did not even ring a bell before all the ruckus, and understandably so. While prodigies such as Hikaru Nakamura, Sam Sevian and others, rose the rungs over a period of many years, giving fans plenty of time to acquaint themselves with their names, 19-year-old Hans Niemann's rise was nothing short of meteoric. 

Consider his ratings according to the FIDE lists:

September 2020 - 2465 FIDE
September 2021 - 2609 FIDE
September 2022 - 2688 FIDE

Extraordinary and completely unprecedented! Almost unprecedented. Though not exactly on the same level, one current player, playing in the Sinquefield Cup no less, experienced a similar late bloom blast off in his rating: Levon Aronian. The great Armenian player, who peaked at 2835 FIDE, was actually an unimpressive 2581 FIDE just days before his 21st birthday, and not in the Top 100 players at all, yet would be world No. 3 at 2756 FIDE just three and a half years later.

With an elevated rating to start with, for ratings purposes, a lot of games would need to be played to raise it so much, and needless to say Hans Niemann was not idle. In those two years, he played roughly 360 rated classical games, or a game every other day on average, and this does not include rapid events or other! It is no exaggeration to say he was eating and breathing chess.

The Stage is set

"A kingdom for a stage, princes to act
And monarchs to behold the swelling scene!"

- William Shakespeare (Henry V, Prologue)

The tournament started very much as one would have expected. In round one, Magnus Carlsen faced his would-be World Championship rival Ian Nepomniachtchi (would-be because Carlsen has declined to defend his title, as we know) in a fascinating struggle in which the Norwegian player showed enormous will and eventually broke his opponent down in a masterful display. Without even looking at any of the other games or boards, for the pundits it seemed to herald yet another title for his ever-growing collection.

Newcomer Hans Niemann faced Levon Aronian, and though he achieved a significant edge, in which conversion was not obvious, he failed to reel in the full point. A promising start and a sign he might not be the pushover one might fear in his first introduction to the elite. 

In round two, Carlsen drew against Aronian, while 'Nepo' bounced back with an impressive win over Firouzja. Hans Niemann also surprised with a win over Mamedyarov, though much of it was self-inflicted as the hyper-aggressive Azeri forced a line of attack and defense from which he emerged lost.

Round three was to see Magnus Carlsen and Hans Niemann finally meet, and by now it was anticipated with rubbing hands of glee by the spectators. Niemann was obviously excited to face his hero but Carlsen was also looking forward to it, having recently stated in an interview that he was anxious to play the new generation of players and show them who was boss. 

Whatever his plans, they quickly went awry as his opening choice backfired and he emerged in a slightly worse endgame by move 17. This was obviously not the outcome he or anyone had envisioned, but it was what it was and he would now have to suffer through it and content himself with a draw. Whether rattled by his unwelcome situation, or his opponent's refusal to just timidly shake hands, the World Champion's play began to degrade until a horrific blunder 28. g4?? left him with a lost game. He tried hard to keep a dream of a draw alive, but Niemann's play was impeccable and he converted the gift into a full point.

If the chess world was stunned then, the next day reserved far bigger reasons to be so. As the live transmission started, security of the players was noticeably beefed up as they walked in, and the commentators prepared to see the next games. Magnus was late, with no news of what was going on, and then it was announced: Magnus Carlsen had withdrawn from the tournament, having informed the organizers, and had posted a provocative and cryptic tweet:

The provocativeness was not the message of the withdrawal itself, however surprising, it was the link to a quote by famed football coach Mourinho saying, "If I speak I am in big trouble, big trouble, and I don't want to be in big trouble."

The chess world and internet went crazy.

The accusations

As Carlsen had never before in his career withdrawn from a tournament, it was safe to assume that he must have had a very good reason for this drastic step. And although the world No. 1 did not state it openly, hiding behind the very words of Mourinho: he cannot say what he thinks because of the trouble it might cause him. The implications did not need Sherlock Holmes to know what he meant. It was his opinion that he had been victim of cheating, and he would not even deign to continue in the tournament in such circumstances.

For 48 hours social media and the internet at large had a field day. Players at the tournament were asked about the withdrawal by Carlsen, without explicitly citing the reason all knew to be the case (Magnus was in good health and not sick, so that was not a viable dodge). Some players visibly sided with Magnus on this, whether because they just believed him or because they shared his point-of-view, such as a smirking Ian Nepomniachtchi who declared Niemann's play had been "more than impressive".

Others after round four, such as Levon Aronian, were less quick to reach such conclusions and urged level-headedness and an open mind.

One of the earliest and most visible critics was elite player and streamer-extraordinaire Hikaru Nakamura who during his stream was unequivocal about his position on the matter. The main points were summed up in a YouTube video posted in his channel, citing the various issues he had and what he perceived and thought.

And here is a round-by-round summary of the scandal, and the opinion of top players and officials to what has transpired.

Specifically you can listen to the opinions of the people involved. Most statements were elicited by official commentator in Saint Louis, GM Alejandro Ramirez:

  • 5'30" – Tony Rich (Executive Director of the Saint Louis Chess Club)
  • 6'56" – Levon Aronian
  • 7'54" – Fabiano Caruana
  • 8'23" – Ian  Nepomniachtchi
  • 9'02" – Hikaru Nakamura
  • 10'34" – Hans Niemann's reply
  • 12'55" – Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
  • 13'54" –  Maxime Vachier-Lagrave
  • 16'29" – Fabiano Caruana
  • 17'39" – Wesley So
  • 19'30" – Hans Niemann, full statement

Banned by Chess.com for cheating

Among the points Nakamura brought up were Niemann's documented cheating issues in the past. He had twice been banned by Chess.com, though allowed to rejoin the site thereafter. These are public knowledge and not open to debate he pointed out, whatever one may think of the current scandal.

Doesn't analyze like a 2700

Another damning point in his opinion was the failure of Hans Niemann to properly analyze and present moves of a standard he expected of a 2700 player in a post-game interview. He explained that these moves and suggestions were not those of a player supposedly of 2700 strength, implying therefore that the rating is fraudulent and not representative of Niemann's true strength. Furthermore, the moves all seemed to be improvised and not from his over-the-board play.

Removed from Fight Chess

Nakamura's oft-rival in one-minute chess games, Canadian GM Eric Hansen, said that he had removed Niemann from his Fight Chess events due to cheating suspicions. It was not clear whether he had confronted the American player with this, or simply taken him off the roster of possible invitees.

Where is his accent?

Yes, as frivolous and strange an entry into this list as that may seem, Nakamura repeatedly wondered at the lack of a distinct American accent by Niemann in his interviews at the Sinquefield Cup. The only reason this is brought up here is because it was actually the first thing Niemann addressed later.

The Mystery of the Opening Preparation

A powerful issue that was debated heatedly online was regarding Niemann's claims of how he prepared such an obscure line against Carlsen. He had even claimed to have analyzed the key moves that very morning, hence his familiarity with it. Niemann cited a game by Magnus played in London some years before, but no one could find this mythical reference. Since a critical and difficult move had been played very quickly, it was pointed out as evidence he was lying and had outside help.

If Nakamura seems to be cited more than anyone, it is because his audience is the largest, and he was the most explicit in his comments, not contenting himself with dodgy tweets or suggestive comments. However, nor did he openly accuse Hans, however transparent his feelings on the topic may seem, and he cited the various issues that bothered him in the entire debacle, which are no doubt echoed by many others.

As such, the Internet and Social Media rest their case, your honor.

The Defense

In Internet terms, it was an eternity in coming, and anyone hoping to see Hans Niemann address this the next day was in for a disappointment. He analyzed his game against Firouzja in his usual way, and seemed quite oblivious to what was actually being said about him or the reasons for Carlsen's withdrawal. He joked, "I am glad I beat him before he left".

It would be a day more in the coming, and while Niemann had his fair share of online defenders such as former Challenger Nigel Short, to name but a few, there is no question that the two largest contributors to his case were GM Jacob Aagaard and Hans Niemann himself.

By now the level of mudslinging and the smear campaign at large had reached a point in which Hans Niemann's very ability to play at a high level was seriously cast in doubt. Enter GM Jacob Aagaard.

Jacob Aaagard's account

GM Aagaard is well-respected as one of the top chess coaches today, having worked with promising juniors to players already past 2700. He is also a profuse author with many fantastic chess training books (this is the author's personal opinion). On September 6th he posted a long and detailed defense of Hans Niemann based on his personal interactions with the young player from precisely the moment he began his astonishing rise. It was titled 'Paranoia and insanity' and presented impressions of Hans Niemann as a person, as a player, and as a talent.

While you are encouraged to read his entire post, here are two excerpts that highlight his character and his ability according to Aagaard.

His personal impressions

"First of all, my personal relationship with Hans Niemann: I met him at a camp in St Louis in 2019. He was about 2450 and clearly a socially awkward character that had a feeling that all eyes were on him all the time. But he was smart, funny, and likeable. It was a good camp and we had some laughs. At the time he was talking about quitting chess a lot, but it was clear that the issue was he cared so much and had not found a mental position that worked for him.

We were sort of in contact on and off over the next two years. He was 2500 18 months ago and playing all the time. His attitude had changed. Instead of being scared of admitting that he wanted to be great, he now gave it his all."

Is he really talented?

While the above certainly helps put into perspective some of his over-the-top self-belief comments, denial or lack of objectivity could lead to similar statements by a player. So what does this veteran coach actually think?

"Hans was difficult to train. I tried to do calculation and endgame training with him (he had requested endgame training). At first, I showed exercises from recent games (last 18 months) that I really liked. He knew them ALL. I was astonished by his memory. I was astonished by his intuition. Both were off the charts for what I have seen training Shankland, Gelfand, and other 2600+ and a few 2700s."

This served as a powerful testimony by a professional coach whose experience with players of all strengths and integrity are unquestioned. However, after the fifth round, the commentator GM Alejandro Ramirez, who had led the player interviews throughout, sprung the question that needed to be asked, "We've got to speak about the elephant in the room."

Hans Niemann speaks out

Whatever one's stance on all this, one cannot but take one's hat off to the impressive defense presented by Hans regarding the many issues. Hans addressed Hikaru Nakamura's video and commented quite directly and obviously, having seen it and been equally bothered by it.

Hans Niemann's impassioned defense and love of chess left no one indifferent or unaffected, and GM Peter Svidler was so moved he declined to add words. 

His accent

Hans opened his comments with what was said about his accent. He noted that having spent years living in Europe, surrounded by people who spoke poor English, the change was a consequence of his environment, and might easily change again if he stayed in the US now. This explanation is actually valid and not even terribly unusual, though some people are less prone to it than others.

The Chess.com ban for cheating

This was a very important issue and one that Niemann faced head on. He admitted that he had indeed twice been banned and had come clean on them with Chess.com. The first time had been when he was a 12-year-old boy, and one he was embarrassed to this day about, but he had learned from. The second time was at age 16 playing some random games, unaffiliated with any tournament to jack up his rating to play stronger players. He confessed it to IM Danny Rensch who issued him a clean slate, but decided that he needed to redeem himself not just to others but to himself. After this Hans began to dedicate himself entirely to chess and over-the-board play.

"I have never ever in my life cheated in an over-the-board game. I do not want any misrepresentation. I am proud of myself that I learned from that mistake and now have
given everything to chess. I have sacrificed everything for chess and I do everything I can to improve.

I know that my actions have consequences and I suffered those consequences during that time. I completely stepped away from a very lucrative streaming career, I stopped playing at all events and I lost a lot of close friendships and relationships that meant a lot to me.

I decided to myself that the only way to make up for my mistake was to prove to myself and to prove to others that I could win myself. That has been my mission and that is why I've lived in a suitcase for two years, that is why I have played 260 games in one year, that is why I have been training 12 hours a day: because I have something to prove."

Opening preparation

He explained that he works with patterns more than precise moves and the general ideas of g3 and the Catalan were seen in games he viewed as he prepared, one leading to another.

"At this point since it's not a direct transposition I should obviously take some time to make sure that the position is going to be transposed properly here."

His extended thinking during his game against the World Champion was both due to who his opponent was, and his desire for extra verification that the transpositions were not going to lead him to a disaster.

"I'm spending extra time to make sure that the transposition is correct because it's the world champion."

Regarding his confusion on the actual source game and location, Nigel Short had this to say:

Analyzing like a 2700

Hikaru Nakamura was visibly bothered by what he deemed to be post-game analysis unworthy of a 2700 player, declaring in no uncertain terms that no 2700 player would analyze like this. This opinion is not universally shared and not only did GM Aagaard contradict it by writing in his post:

"When Nakamura is saying that no 2700 calculates this poorly, he is flat out wrong. I can also show positional mistakes from Nakamura that undermines the credibility of the playing strength of the former No. 2. Mistakes that Hans would simply not believe a GM had made. Because they are his strengths and Nakamura’s weaknesses."

But he is not alone, and Nigel Short points out:

"Chess is my entire life and I've sacrificed everything for this game, and I'm willing to do anything to prove myself and to improve at chess. (...) Chess is everything to me." 

- Hans Niemann (2022)

The evidence

While the debate on right or wrong, guilty or not guilty, has been raging for days now, two things remain quite missing. One is a proper declaration and position by Magnus Carlsen. He started this affair and massive storm in the chess world, not to mention the legions attacking Niemann, and as a result should own up to his words and make his position clear. It was not merely a powerful condemnation of a young player on the rise, but his withdrawal from the tournament is an unprecedented act that should be justified.

The second and most obvious missing piece here is any shred of genuine evidence to condemn Hans Niemann. The fact is that while some pointed out Hans Niemann's excellent play and win against Magnus Carlsen as a source of suspicion, more significant was the poor quality of the World Champion's play against Hans. As a colleague was quick to point out, "with those mistakes any 2700 would have beaten Carlsen." In other words, Magnus lost the game through his own doing, and not as a result of god-like moves unleashed by his opponent.

The Consequences

There are few things more brutal and unfeeling than an Internet lynch mob out for blood. It is perfectly fine to harbor doubts, and feelings, but to condemn someone without any form of proper evidence is something we would hope we were above. As an American, the concept of innocent until proven guilty is one that is taken to heart and lived by, and one cannot but wonder at how damaging this can be for the career of a young player making waves, who instead of celebrating the greatest moment of his career is forced to defend it as if it were a shameful crime that needed explaining. 

"You know you spend your entire life looking up to someone and then you meet them and then you know my dream came true. I lived my dream for a day beating Magnus and then all this happened."

According to Hans Niemann, there are already consequences as he was informed he was not only being removed from the Global Chess Championship organized by Chess.com, but his account had also been summarily suspended.

Let us hope that cooler heads prevail, but one thing is also true: The controversy has single-handedly made certain the entire world knows who Hans Niemann is. Hans said that in his life he was most fueled by people telling him he was not good enough or unworthy, and the desire to prove them wrong.

"Spite has been a strong fuel for me. When I was starting to play chess in the Netherlands my school teacher told me I wasn't good enough and that certainly fueled me. I've always been one to prove people wrong and this absolutely fuels me and makes me want to win the tournament even more."

One cannot imagine a greater motivator, however dark in origin, than what he has undergone now.

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Born in the US, he grew up in Paris, France, where he completed his Baccalaureat, and after college moved to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. He had a peak rating of 2240 FIDE, and was a key designer of Chess Assistant 6. In 2010 he joined the ChessBase family as an editor and writer at ChessBase News. He is also a passionate photographer with work appearing in numerous publications, and the content creator of the YouTube channel, Chess & Tech.

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eric b eric b 9/9/2022 08:19
@hansj - I see that you are quite persistent in reminding everyone that Carlsen has not "literally" called Hans Niemann a cheater, and you are quite correct about that. I myself believe that Niemann probably did not cheat (although I don't care much for his anti-social arrogant personality. Carlsen is anti-social and arrogant as well). However, when it comes to what Carlsen "mostly likely" believes (based on circumstantial evidence of course), it seems extremely likely that Carlsen does indeed think that Hans cheated in their game. It's like the old expression, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck. and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. You are right that this still proves nothing. However, I think it's still sensible and logical to assume that Carlsen believes Hans cheated, and there is a very strong likelihood that he does. There is nothing wrong with speculating on this situation based on that assumption. In my own view, Carlsen's behavior is entitled and unprofessional. Also, when speculating on what Carlsen most likely thinks (that Hans cheated), I don't think it is necessary to "explicitly" make this distinction every single time we comment. (sorry for the double post, but I wanted to express my thoughts on this in this discussion thread as well).
Frits Fritschy Frits Fritschy 9/9/2022 08:00
Hansj,
If Niemann files a complaint with the EDC, the EDC might ask what was meant with his Mourinho quote. If he doesn't have a reasonable explanation for it (other than what everyone except you thinks), he might be in trouble.
A Dutch right-wing politician asked at a rally: 'Do we want more or less Morrocans in the country?' He didn't get away with saying that it was just a question. If everyone understands what you say or write in a certain way, you can't hide behind that it might have been meant in a different way.
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 07:49
Carlsen did give a poor explanation. It was about Mourinho and possible troubles he will get if he talks, hansj.
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 07:42
By the way, hansj, how do you cheat in chess if not with engine? Spying the opponent's scoresheet before his move?
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 07:20
Hansj, prove your statement. Singing the same song again and again proves nothing.
hansj hansj 9/9/2022 07:16
@Jack Nayer
Carlsen has not claimed that Niemann cheated.
He just left the building with no explanation.
kenneth calitri kenneth calitri 9/9/2022 04:59
Over the past few months, I have become a Hans Neimann fan. Now even a bigger fan. It is refreshing to see someone be themselves even if they aren't polished like a politician. Who is at 19? I don't believe he is cheating. If he is as MVL alluded so is every young GM who has rapidly improved over last 12-15 months - why aren't we accusing them? Is Pragg getting hand signals from Ramesh? Is Sokalov sending moves with eye blinks? Whoever is helping Hans seems to come from inside his own fervent mind. Also, I like his acquired accent. I would love to talk like Kramnik! Ask Danny Gormally!
Jack Nayer Jack Nayer 9/9/2022 04:53
The problem is the necessary amount and nature of proof. Carlsen has to prove that Niemann cheated, but perhaps Carlsen can’t speak. We are talking about a guy who has cheated before. It was not rated OTB, but you need a special psychology to cheat. Imagine that Carlsen’s PC had been hacked. Finding out by who is difficult. Imagine that Carlsen, being suspicious, played a line he had played only once before. Niemann knew all the theory. Is that proof? Of course not. It is reason for suspicion? What would proof look like? A direct link to Niemann’s PC with Carlsen’s file on it? Who is going to check this? The police? Or, say, an electronic device hidden in an ear? People are not that stupid. Say, for the sake of argument, that Niemann cheated – let’s say we are sure of it – but it cannot be proven, what then? Innocent until proven guilty? We live in a world where someone can hack your PC, read all your information, put spyware on your hard drive and you won’t have an idea. And if you realise that you have hacked, there is no way for you to know who the hacker is. The state of technology makes human life and understanding antiquated.
TheBowtieClub TheBowtieClub 9/9/2022 04:51
I think you meant to say "prolific" or even "profound", and not "profuse".
hansj hansj 9/9/2022 04:45
@Marozka:
Did anyone claim that Niemann used an engine?
Carlsen surely did not.
Marozka Marozka 9/9/2022 04:41
Can someone explain to me how someone with a true rating of 2480 using an engine facing 2750 playes, can fake long fighting games ending in a draw and such? Seems to require a cunning and restraint unheard of in cheaters.
Cizia Cizia 9/9/2022 03:42
Thanks to Chessbase for this topic and to all of you for your comments

One thing that a french GM suggested : maybe this is not about cheating with AI assistance during the game but it is about ... a spying affair before the game
Apparently Magnus was shocked after move 15 , and then made 'bad' moves after

Did someone of the Magnus's team talk about this rare opening line ? or maybe someone got access to the PCs of the team and found Magnus preparation ?
Why not ...
hansj hansj 9/9/2022 03:28
@Frits Fritschy: "... without mentioning Niemann ..."
In fact Carlsen in his tweet did not mention Niemann.
nirvana1963 nirvana1963 9/9/2022 03:25
@vincero Sure, suspending Carlsen for at least a year (for life if it's up to you...) for indirectly accusing someone of cheating while on the other hand Karjakin was suspended for only 6 months for openly supporting a mass murderer who is the biggest threat of world peace these days. In my opinion Karjakin should have been banned for life, and Carlsen... let's see, he will show up and make a statement sooner or later.
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 02:45
I agree with FF that some form of disciplinary action should be initiated against Carlsen ... unless he admits his mistake, his bad behavior against Niemann, Fide, the organizer of the Sinquefiled Cup and the entire chess world. Players should be punished for their bad behavior, even if they are world champions.
Frits Fritschy Frits Fritschy 9/9/2022 02:11
Abt1992,
In that case he violated the FIDE ethics & disciplinary code (and probably the contract with the tournament organisation).
Abt1992 Abt1992 9/9/2022 02:04
Well, I believe that this has gone way too far, especially since Carlsen hasn't speak at all yet, and somehow it is he that should be pressed in the first place to clarify his position and actions.
What if finally he says, "Guys what are you talking about, I only left since I consider his comments in the post-mortem disrespectful and I do not feel that I should tolerate such behaviors" ... ?
Frits Fritschy Frits Fritschy 9/9/2022 01:53
And how does this relate to Carlsen?
According to 11.3, also indirect accusations (the 'Mourinho' part of his tweet) constitute a violation.
According to 11.6, not just actual (a) but also potential (c) harm of reputation is considered a violation. You can't just say: I didn't mean any harm.
Art 11.7 (f) is clear enough about accusations. If you don't have sufficient evidence, you shouldn't accuse another player, even when you do it indirectly (11.3). Also, it gives a clear way what to do if you just have suspicions.
From the last you can conclude that there was no valid reason to withdraw (11.9).
If Carlsen had enough evidence for cheating, he could have gone public, given that the arbiter/anti-cheating official was not willing to do anything. If he just had strong suspicions, there were other ways than withdrawing from the tournament to get what he wanted. If the tournament organisation wasn't willing to do anything, he could have gone public about that after the tournament without mentioning Niemann, or filed a complaint about the organisation with the FIDE ethics & disciplinary commission.
If there will be an investigation about his conduct, he will have to face two questions: what did he mean with the Mourinho quote, and why did he leave the tournament?
ChessSpawnVermont ChessSpawnVermont 9/9/2022 01:37
The statement issued by Danny Rench of Chess dot com is simply unacceptable. Timing dear Danny is sometimes far more telling than the words written. If you had all of this "evidence" of cheating (additional?) why did you wait until your new business associate, Magnus, had lost an otb game to Niemann absent ANY indication of otb cheating by Niemann to suddenly close Niemann's chess dot com account? Danny, your actions smell of bad faith retribution designed to support Carlsen whose company you have arranged to purchase. This smacks of conflict of interest on your part.

I suspect that it will take a defamation of character suit by someone penalized by you to put you back on a more rational road. Discovery in defamation litigation will likely lay bare you Divine algorithm(s) for analysis by a plaintiff's expert witness. Looking forward to that day......
Frits Fritschy Frits Fritschy 9/9/2022 01:29
What could be the consequences for Carlsen? Let's look again at the FIDE Handbook (https://handbook.fide.com/files/handbook/EthicsAndDisciplinaryCode2022.pdf).
Art. 11 - DISCIPLINARY OFFENCES [...]
11.3 The following conduct shall constitute a violation of this Code (in each case, whether committed directly or indirectly) if committed by any person subject to this Code: [also refers to the following]
11.6 Offences causing reputational harm
(a) False or unjustified accusations: Players or members of their delegations must not make unjustified accusations of any nature towards other players, [...]
(c) Potential harm of reputation: Any conduct likely to improperly injure or discredit [...] participants [...] that will enhance the goodwill which attaches to the same; provided constructive and founded criticism of
[...] participants [...] are permitted as an expression of the freedom of speech.
[...]
11.7 Offences involving dishonesty
[...]
(f) Reckless or manifestly unfounded accusation of chess cheating: Any player [...] which, makes public or private allegations of cheating against another player [...] without acceptable grounds existing for a reasonable suspicion of cheating; provided that a player is not precluded from reporting in private to an arbiter or anti-cheating official during a competition any suspicion of cheating by another person for the purposes of monitoring the behaviour of such person.
[...]
11.9 General misbehaviour
[...]
(b) Withdrawal from tournaments: Players withdrawing from a tournament without valid reason or without informing the tournament arbiter;
binnun binnun 9/9/2022 01:18
quite some childish behavior from all sides. Carlsen's innuendos, Niemann's awkward behavior (also referring to chess.com's rebuttal), the chess world's gossiping.
Nobody really knows anything. Until we get substantial evidence, I'd suggest we flush it down in the toilet of Elista, that might be an appropriate place of equal proportions
:)
Frits Fritschy Frits Fritschy 9/9/2022 01:00
@Arminio12: I think we agree. The problem with extraordinary players is that they do extraordinary things. It is by definition not suspicious what they do; saying so is simply denying that they are extraordinary.
lajosarpad lajosarpad 9/9/2022 11:34
The whole chess world understands Carlsen's tweet as a silent accusation of Niemann. If we are all wrong, then I expect Carlsen to clarify this. Until that happens I will treat the hypothesis according to which Carlsen accused Niemann of cheating as a fact. He provided no evidence.

The fact that Niemann was cheating twice on chess.com sheds some suspicion on him, but does not prove anything about his current game with Carlsen. An evidence should be a video footage where Niemann is caught on cheating. Since that (or some similarly hard evidence) was not presented so far, and the burden of proof is on the shoulders of the accusers, I treat Niemann as innocent, but I admit that I might be wrong.

Any free society treats all its members as innocent until proven otherwise. And no, a guilt committed earlier does not validate any accusation about a perceived guilt now.

Independently of whether Niemann cheated or not, Carlsen behaved in a manner unworthy of a world champion. He learned with hard work how to win, but did not learn how to lose. Being able to be a gentleman when things aren't rosy requires character.
genem genem 9/9/2022 11:21
Frederic Friedel, of ChessBase of course, many years ago warned that a 15 minute delay was needed when broadcasting over-the-board moves during a tournament. If the Sinqfield organizers had adopted this common sense security measure Before this mess instead of After, this mess would not have occurred. Unless Carlsen has real evidence, he was very wrong to add the "I better not speak" meme to his tweet.
hansj hansj 9/9/2022 10:56
@gcajaiba: Has Carlsen accused Niemann of cheating?
Do you have a reliable source for that?
wuschel75 wuschel75 9/9/2022 10:33
This is by far the best article I have read regarding this matter.
Thank you!
And regarding Magnus Carlsen: Until he provides more information explaining his withdrawal I regard his behaviour as not being the proper behaviour of a professional sportsman, especially not the one a true chess world champion should show.
gcajaiba gcajaiba 9/9/2022 09:37
I think that the best description of Niemann comes from himself "an idiot". I'd add to that immature, arrogant and disrespectful. This being said, he has been playing high level chess and we should praise his game against Carlsen. If Carlsen doesn't have any evidence of cheating, he shouldn't have withdrawn from the tournament and create such pseudo accusations.
Graham Banks Graham Banks 9/9/2022 09:14
Carlsen might possibly regret his actions yet.
chamishavolkov chamishavolkov 9/9/2022 08:35
Richie Rapport could have saved the world from this fallout by getting vaccinated against COVID-19. More evidence for the enormous potential vaccines have to make the world a better place.
Maatalkko Maatalkko 9/9/2022 07:57
hansj: "So please tell me: What exactly did Carlsen accuse Niemann of? I have not seen any accusations as yet. Carlsen did not even mention Niemann!"

Hey hansj: you're a f___ing i___t. Oh pardon thos blanks, of course I wrote footing ingot.
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 07:43
I have considered Carlsen to be a fairly reasonable person and a good example as a world champion in his sport. Sure, Carlsen has had his own little faults, one of which has been hating to lose in a game. Who wouldn't hate that? If Carlsen is honorable and understands his mistake, he will issue a public apology to Niemann. Carlsen loses nothing in it, but gains everything. At the same time, Niemann would also have the burden of being a cheater off his shoulders. Win-win situation.

Sure, some other guys who have been spreading vague, unproven rumors online don't deserve forgiveness. Some have done it to get more listeners for themselves, not because of the truth. I don't feel like pointing the finger at them here. Let them look at themselves in the mirror and bring out their misery.
acepoint acepoint 9/9/2022 07:36
The drama continues: https://twitter.com/acepoint/status/1568103437715357704

I see the point in «information, that contradicts his statement». I also respect the wish to clear things first directly with the people affected. But IMHO security by obscurity rarely worked in IT business. And in case Hans Niemann received the e-mail during the mess in SinquefieldCup the time management couldn't be worse.
hansj hansj 9/9/2022 07:20
Does anyone have a link to Carlsen's (alleged) accusations against Niemann? Or a verbatim quotation, Carlsen's own words?
I have not been able to find these accusations anywhere.
Has Carlsen in fact accused Niemann of anything?
arzi arzi 9/9/2022 07:03
hansj: "So please tell me: What exactly did Carlsen accuse Niemann of?
I have not seen any accusations as yet.
Carlsen did not even mention Niemann!"

Really hansj? Carlsen´s withdraw from Sinquefiled Cup after loss against Niemann without any explanations tells ALL. It was Carlsen´s own mistake NOT to reason his actions. Carlsen didn't say the words himself, but his actions told the story he presented to the world. How is it possible that you, hansj, do not understand Carlsen's actions without the words spoken, but chess.com understands Carlsen perfectly well and Niemann is banned from chess.com? Carlsen shot himself in the foot by suspending the tournament without any reasonable explanation. This proves that even ex-World Champion can act like an idiot. He is a human, nothing less nothing more.
tom_70 tom_70 9/9/2022 06:40
I've followed Magnus's career since he was a small child. He is not the sort of player that would withdraw from a tournament without a very good reason. I have to side with Carlsen on this. Han's Niemann was a 2400 rated player 2 years ago and has been banned for cheating before. His post game interview was largely incoherent gibberish.
Gerald C Gerald C 9/9/2022 06:19
M. Carlsen "cannot say what he thinks because of the trouble it might cause him". Did he realize the trouble and the damage he caused to Hans Niemann with his tweet ? The answer is clearly no. M. Carlsen doesn't care.
vincero vincero 9/9/2022 06:19
magnus MUST be suspended for at least a year for accusing this young man of cheating and harming his life WITHOUT any proof at all!
If up to me, a LIFETIME suspension for him and naka the mental case is appropriate.
Have you people no idea the harm false accusations do to others?
People lose their jobs...their friends (look at Johnny Depp!)...some go to jail on false witnesses.....this is not some little thing that you choose a side and cheer it on.....there must be a unified voice that NO ONE not even a WC can run around harming others without proof and suffer no penalty!
SEmbrey SEmbrey 9/9/2022 03:31
"There are few things more brutal and unfeeling than an Internet lynch mob out for blood. It is perfectly fine to harbor doubts, and feelings, but to condemn someone without any form of proper evidence is something we would hope we were above. "

Obviously, you hope in vain.
physica physica 9/9/2022 02:49
@mrstillwater. All this is just sweet&salty aftermath. "Deep Thinking" was published in '17? Way too long after the event. Surely, computer chess boomed after this, when the computation power increased drastically and search heuristics were invented and tuned. But the progress was still peanuts compared to today's open source and neural networks. Everything was closed source or didn't exist, no open source community with hundreds of developers sharing knowledge. He is just thinking of his reputation as a politician or influencer imo, so apologies are kind of kudos to the computer science overall.

"...nothing to gain and plenty to lose from a rematch...". Sure, they were offended and withdrawal was a 100% win in their pocketes. But if DB (without human input) was 100% superior to Garry in truth in 1997, they should've accepted and silenced Garry for good. But Garry might have come up with demands such as the logs had to be published and supervised, so there wouldn't have been escape this time. One problem with historical human vs. computer (as well as comp. vs. comp.) games are the opening books. By allowing them we didn't measure engines' skills with various openings (which was one of their weakest points until NNs), just crunching over best human invented lines hindered many of their flaws.

When did Hsu offer this rematch (sorry for not buying the book just for this info)? Sounds like he returned the favor with interest and was sure of the outcome. In 2003 Garry drew Junior and Fritz. 2004 onwards, Hydra cluster creamed all other engines and humans. At this point, it was clear that the race was over with supercomputers.
Jason Rihel Jason Rihel 9/9/2022 02:09
@ Arminio12 I think it is difficult to know how to treat the pandemic break, for sure, and I think it’s going to mask the real improvements of some players, esp young players, for some time. Our local events have seen vastly underrated kids due to this (and also some rust in the older players too).
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