FIDE Press release, 21 March 2022
The FIDE Ethics and Disciplinary Commission (EDC) has reached a verdict on the case 2/2022, relating to public statements by grandmasters Sergey Karjakin (FIDE ID 14109603) and Sergei Shipov (FIDE ID 4113624).
The EDC First Instance Chamber, formed by Yolander Persaud (Guyana), Ravindra Dongre (India), and Johan Sigeman (Sweden) as Chairperson, unanimously decided as follows:
Sergey Karjakin is found guilty of breach of article 2.2.10 of the FIDE Code of Ethics, and is sanctioned to a worldwide ban of six months from participating as a player in any FIDE rated chess competition, taking effect from the date of this decision, 21 March 2022.
Sergei Shipov is found not guilty of breach of article 2.2.10 of the FIDE Code of Ethics.
The article 2.2.10 of the Code of Ethics reads as follows:
“(…) Disciplinary action in accordance with this Code of Ethics will be taken in cases of occurrences which cause the game of chess, FIDE or its federations to appear in an unjustifiable unfavorable light and in this way damage its reputation.”
“The statements by Sergey Karjakin on the ongoing military conflict in Ukraine has led to a considerable number of reactions on social media and elsewhere, to a large extent negative towards the opinions expressed by Sergey Karjakin”, reads point 7.37 of the 10-page document where the EDC explains the reasons and legal background for its decision.
It continues: “A necessary condition for the establishment of guilt is that the statements have reached the public domain. This concept, with respect to disrepute clauses in sport, is not the world at large but the sport in which the accused engages, such as chess. Information concerning the accused's conduct which is not published in the media, but which can be learnt without a great deal of labour by persons engaged in the chess world or a relevant part of it, will be in the public domain and satisfy the public exposure element. The EDC Chamber is comfortably satisfied that this condition is fulfilled in this case.”
“The EDC Chamber finds, against the background given above, on the standard of comfortable satisfaction that the statements of Sergey Karjakin, which, by his own choice and presentation, can be connected to the game of chess, damage the reputation of the game of chess and/or FIDE. The likelihood that these statements will damage the reputation of Sergey Karjakin personally is also considerable”, it concludes.
The Chamber explains its decision to not sanction Sergei Shipov with the following argument: “In comparison with Sergey Karjakin, Sergei Shipov is considerably less known and has, therefore, a less powerful platform. The statements made by Sergei Shipov are also of a slightly different and less provocative character than the ones made by Karjakin. In an overall evaluation of the potential negative impact on the game of chess and/or FIDE, the EDC Chamber is not sufficiently convinced that Sergei Shipov’s statements qualify as a breach of article 2.2.10.”
Sergey Karjakin has been advised by EDC that this decision may be appealed to the Appeal Chamber of the EDC by giving written notice of such appeal to the FIDE Secretariat within 21 days from the date upon which this decision is received. The notice of appeal must clearly state all the grounds for the appeal. Failing the due exercise of this right of appeal, the EDC Chamber's decision will become final.
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It is called as a freedom of silence.
So you are right, numbers don't reach yet top of the list, but that war is not yet over. On that page you have also link to definition of word genocide based on intention, maybe it's hard to see it but considering Putin's own claim that he wants to "denazify and demilitarize" Ukraine tells a lot about his intentions.
Going through that list of cases shows a lot about abilities of Russia to cause the genocide, 90 years ago Ukraine was a victim of genocide clearly comparable to Holocaust. Would you consider proposing Zelensky to give up and risk something similar? Or would you risk your neck betting that Putin would never do something like this?
Some information to Quanber. Even though a man/woman is a communist, born and grown up in Finland, he is still a Finn. It is his/her choice to be a communist. It is not a crime, at least not in Finland. Do try to be a human and not the asshole.
Navalny has just had his prison sentence extended by 9 years due to false accusations. It is a Russia in total resolution we observe, a total rotten leadership that only holds on to power by imprisoning and killing all opposition.
And then a correction: The deeply unbelievable JanneKejo is not primarily from Finland. He is primarily a communist, and will do anything to weaken Finland's security policy situation to promote communism. He is closely linked to the Russian security service FSB through his involvement in communism, and he uses the same horrific method as the FSB by consistently legitimizing Russia violence that others have historically been violent as well. It's insane.
His recent statements confirm what kind of person he is: his very bad ethics, his disregard for truth.
Such people as Karjakin bring chess into disrepute.
A slaughterhouse where millions of Ukrainians are on the run after cities have been laid in ruins as well as a minimum of one hundred thousand wounded or killed is being sold as a fresh spring adventure aimed at protecting an enclave of Russians in Ukraine. Where all sensible can see that it is about conquering Ukraine and making Russia bigger.
No one from the Russian security service FSB can anymore save Russia in the media from the fate that befalls ordinary Russians supporting this madness. Exclusion and condemnation. This also applies to Karajkin.
It should be borne in mind that FIDE's exclusion of Karajkin for 6 months is an insignificant mosquito bite compared to the actual exclusion from tournaments that will affect Karajkin for the rest of his life.
Tournament committee after tournament committee, with the support of sponsors, has made it clear that Karajkin will not be invited again. On the more personal level, top player after top player has likewise made it clear that they will not play against people who pay homage to war crimes as a spring excursion. This is where the real exclusion comes from and it will last the rest of his life.
I did not mean to imply that Voltaire used these words verbatim and should be surprised if they are found in any of his works. They are rather a paraphrase of Voltaire’s words in the Essay on Tolerance — «Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too».
Zelensky is the killer of the children of Donbass!"
There are some generic advices how to behave when you travel to foreign country, ie. follow the rules, in case of troubles leave the country if you are asked to. These basic rules are even followed by ordinary Russians, there is a big number of them in my country. Unfortunately thanks to this it's not difficult to provoke a conflict and consider it a reason for entering other country with an army to "protect" your people. This is well known technique from the history.
Now isn't there something very wrong with Karjakin's statement? What the hell is Russian army doing in Donetsk? Oh, I forgot, protecting their own people. Just don't forget, the very same reason can be later used everywhere in the world.
@lajosarpad, the FIDE rules clearly state that they are allowed to act for the reputability of the sport. And they explained that in why they did not punish Shipov but punished Karjakin for the same thing. So it's a question of whether this is more important than consistency, but that's the decision FIDE made.
"I am on the side of Russia and my President. No matter what happens, I will support my country in any situation without thinking for a second!"
Genocide - "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group"
So yes, in my opinion Mr. Karjakin is advocating genocide. And my opinion is based not only on "western" TV spots about situation in Ukraine. As a citizen of Czech Republic I can see the amount of Ukrainian people coming to our country because of Putin's actions, also I can get direct information from other half of my family living in Kosice (Slovakia, less then 100km from Ukrainian border).
"Wow! So, if the mass media in your country is not the means of state propaganda (as it isn't in mine either) then whose's propaganda is it? And does the "indepence" mean only independence of the people that are elected by the people? In other words, does the independent media mean media that is not dependent of the will of the majority of the people?"
Haven't read it properly, too complicated for me. I just compare media of the likes of RT and Sputnik and what happens on Russias streets with normal countries. The vast majority in functioning democracies does that, and it suffices to make sure to live in a normal society.
Jacques Ellul's book "Propaganda": Don't know that. I have a functioning brain, so I think that normal societies teach their children to be able to read as a starting point for a successful life.
In the middle ages, the king said to the priest: You keep them dumb, I keep them poor. Would make more sense, and is applied in Russia, and the US as well by the way.
I would gladly swiitch over to a chess organisation that doesn't ban its members for their political views. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
"...And, as Karjakin has mentioned in his tweets, this might result in the creation of new chess associations. In 1993 Kasparov and Short created the new Professional Chess Association..."
Remains to be seen if Karjakin and Shipov (and probably some other, even lesser known russian GMs/IMs) have the same attractiveness to sponsors as Kasparov/Short. If you spot some sarcasm in this sentence you are right. Which sponsor and which audience will possibly be interested in this squad? If Karjakins has uttered something of the likes I would think it is whistling in the dark because he has a premonition of his chess career being over.
Wow! So, if the mass media in your country is not the means of state propaganda (as it isn't in mine either) then whose's propaganda is it? And does the "indepence" mean only independence of the people that are elected by the people? In other words, does the independent media mean media that is not dependent of the will of the majority of the people?
" And are you in all earnest suggesting that children are taught to read in order to be able to read state propaganda??"
Actually, I first encountered this idea in Jacques Ellul's book "Propaganda" (https://www.amazon.com/Propaganda-Formation-Attitudes-Jacques-Ellul/dp/0394718747) I recommend this book to everyone who wants to understand the current mass media.
Yes, JanneKejo means that is happening in his favorite country, North Korea. North Korea may not be the best example of a democratic society, but of heaven for comrades.
"Even so, the consistense of the story does not guarantee that it is true, but the inconsistense guarantees that it is not true."
There is some sense in that. For months the russian govt. lied the world in the face. We are only doing manoevres, we have no aggressive intentions, we are withdrawing our troops, we haven't attacked Ukraine. The latter uttered by the russian foreign minister two weeks AFTER the invasion began. At the same time Putin insults the ukr. president being a nazi, one day later a drug-addicted nazi, the whole ukrainian govt. is nazi, generously leaving out that he himself supports rightwing extremist parties all over Europe for years.
Seems utterly inconsistent for me, and I draw my conclusion from this inconsistency and from his record of lies.
Somehow veering off-topic now, but this "Nobody can know the truth" is one of the tools of the Trumps, Putins and other such creatures of the world to sow chaos and undermine democracy and I find it hard to let such things stand uncommented
"...it became important to make sure they vote the correct alternative. Therefore propaganda, i.e. mass media, was needed. First it was the newspapers and therefore it was important to have public schools that would teach all children to read."
In my country (mass) media are not a means of state propaganda, because I live in a functioning democracy with independent (mass) media. This is different in the US, and I have a suspicion also in Russia. And are you in all earnest suggesting that children are taught to read in order to be able to read state propaganda??
This time it is about something more important: The right to express one's political opinions. I would not be surprised if there were new international chess organisations in addition to FIDE in the near future. I would actualy welcome them after this shameful resolution of FIDE to ban Karjakin for his political views.
Who determines what is the opinion and what is the incitement to violence against a specific group of people. Do you know the difference, Lajosarpad? You should know that because you have written about minority problems.
I don´t know about FSB. He is a blogger from Finland. Good or bad I don´t know and even care. He also seems to write in ASSOCIATION OF THE COMMUNISTS, homepage about, "News from Northern Korea". FSB is too dilute alongside great divine leader Kim Jong-un.
6. "vocem mittere in alteram partem" {Seneca}
I predict that Russian individuals will also be excluded from chess tournaments. I hope I'm wrong.
1. Inconsistency in general: if we look carefully into the past of all chess players, we will find that many of them said horrible things or supported horrible actions in the past. If we accept the principle of banning for thought crimes, then anyone saying anything horrible or supporting anything horrible should be banned.
2. Inconsistency in particular: If Karjakin is being punished for his thoughts, then Shipov must be similarly punished for expressing equivalent thoughts
3. Directly affecting the results of the world championship via non-chess means. Tripoli, 2004: Israeli players were not allowed into the country because a suspicion that they could be "spies". I found that reprehensible, not only because the accusation was ridiculous (it was mainly Islamic antisemitism being manifested by Lybia), but also because it meant that the "world championship" was not a real world championship, that is, should the best player in the world be Jewish, he/she would never get the chance to show it. Kasparov was similarly blocked by the Soviet Union back in the day and it was up to Kortchnoi to play the match with him anyway. What if Karjakin would be the best player in the candidates? Should we block the possibly best player of chess, because we do not like his attitude and world view?
4. The UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights clearly states that everyone has a right for free expression. Do I like Karjakin's opinion? No, not at all. The real test for free speech is to see whether horrible opinions are allowed to be expressed. If proponents for horrible opinions are being punished for thought crimes, then sooner or later they will find your opinion - whatever it is - horrible as well and will start abusing you for it. Because this is how Bolshevism works.
Some people read news from one side and some from some other side. Some few like me read both. How can one know what is true? As long as one is not an actual vitness, the only test is the internal consistence of the story offered. Even so, the consistense of the story does not guarantee that it is true, but the inconsistense guarantees that it is not true.
I guess I am reading other news articles than most of the western audience. In the following link you can find the news articles I have read this morning.
https://maailmaltauutisia.blogspot.com/2022/03/viikko-11-122022.html
You didn't get the point. And I have a feeling that you are one of those persons who is not only lacking in clue but is apparently unable or unwilling to acquire clue even when handed it on a plate in generous portions.
Karjakin's image too will rise ....or fall further....
Monxxta absolutely nailed it . He expose what a big liar FSB / JanneKejo is.
You mean just like the "oppression of Germans in Poland", before Sep 1 1939, which triggered the "special operation" back then?
It is not about these made-up stories of Russins being killed, or NATO or anything. It is about the fear of one man about having Maidan on the Red Square.
"Having read Sergei Karjakin's tweets for the last few weeks" ... it seems to me that he is just ok with the bombing of kindergardens, schools, hospitals, housing blocks, shopping malls and the killing of a 96year old, who survived four nazi concentrations camps. He calls it patriotism. I call it complicity. If only he, and you as well, could take one step back from patriotism and nationalism, take a look at the picture without having the propaganda in mind and use your brains. And then ask yourself: why are facebook and instagram and twitter blocked in Russia, why are people with "no war"-signs, with "two words"-signs or with signs without anything on them being arrested, and why does the russian society need to be "cleaned from traitors", as Putin says? I mean, cleaning a society from traitors? What kind of person uses this language? Doesn't that give you shivers? Or at least a certain feel of unease?