Garry Kasparov on the record
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Garry Kasparov’s voice was a little more muffled than the usual long-distance
call to Moscow. He was trying to shake a change-of-seasons cold and it took
a little while for the verbal Kasparov express train to reach top speed. The
world’s top-rated player has been quiet during the last few months of
controversy in the chess world. It was quickly apparent that he’s been
keeping a close eye on the proceedings.
Our
hour covered current affairs, social studies, business finance, and finished
off with some history. We focused on the status of the world championship unification
plan and moved on to the fundamental issues of chess sponsorship. Kasparov responded
to Yasser Seirawan’s November interview and addressed the activities of
the new Association of Chess Professionals.
In keeping with the plan laid out in the 2002 Prague agreement Kasparov is slotted
to play a match against the winner of June’s FIDE world championship in
Libya. His first declaration came as a surprise at a moment in which some are
accusing him of receiving unfair preferential treatment in the world championship
derby.
"First let me say that I don’t think any one player should have
a special position. In the current environment there is no player who deserves
special treatment. In his recent interview [New In Chess] Kramnik says
he doesn’t see any reason to consider me as the number one. Okay, maybe
I agree with him. But applying the same logic I don’t see any reason to
consider him to be the world champion. He won a match against me four years
ago, correct. But why should he be considered above Anand right now?"
Kasparov
bases his rationale for this inter pares situation on Kramnik’s
inability to show he’s the best and his failure to defend his title against
legitimate qualifiers on a regular basis. He also agrees with Kramnik on something
else, that there are currently four players that can be considered ahead of
the rest: Anand, Kramnik, Leko, and himself. You shouldn’t ignore the
excellent results of Svidler and Morozevich, but I don’t think many would
argue with the favored status of the first four.
Back in 1946 the highest title was left vacant by the death of Alekhine. It
was an unprecedented scenario and one that thankfully has not been repeated.
With the tradition of succession unavailable, a match tournament was organized
in 1948 and the world’s top players were invited to battle it out for
the crown. Botvinnik dominated to become the sixth world champion.
(There was controversy then as well. Many (“most,” according to
Golombek”) wanted to include Miguel Najdorf in the event but the Argentine
was excluded. One rumor went that the Russians wanted him out because of his
good results against Botvinnik, although they had played just one game.)
FORGOTTEN PLANS ARE NEW AGAIN
As
in 1948, the important thing now is to guarantee the participation of all the
relevant players, to leave no doubts when the title is unified for the first
time in over a decade. The obvious flip-side to no one player being above
the rest is that for purposes of expediency we are forced to choose four who
are. It is critical to agree on the formula and get everyone to the board. That
was the idea of Prague. Of less importance is the method itself.
Kasparov
says he’ll play in quarterfinals, semifinals, or any other fair system
that doesn’t put another player at an advantage. By that he means Kramnik
and this is consistent with the position he held in Prague two years ago. The
only qualifying Kramnik did for their 2000 world championship was to lose a
candidates match to Shirov in 1998. Kasparov can’t see why he should have
to jump through more hoops than anyone else when he is the top-rated player
in the world. In 2000 Kramnik was selected because he was #2, although he had
recently changed places with Anand, who declined to play.
Kasparov even went as far as to suggest a new, more democratic solution, one
that he points out should sound familiar.
"It’s very simple now. We have four players at the top and we
can take the top four from Libya and have matches: quarterfinals, semifinals,
and a final. Anand, Kramnik, Leko, Kasparov, we have these four and then the
four semifinalists from Libya. While I don’t see any reason for modifying
the current structure, I would have no problem with this."
For those with bad memories, this is practically identical to the original
“Fresh Start” proposal by American GM Yasser Seirawan, which
eventually turned into the Prague Agreement. Kramnik bluntly vetoed that eight-player
plan and suggested that Kasparov, Anand, and Ivanchuk face off to play Ponomariov
first.
Instead, after epic negotiations we ended up with the Prague Agreement, signed
by Kramnik, Kasparov, Ilyumzhinov, and an impressive band of organizer luminaries. Less a contract than a moral commitment to do their best to unify the title,
the document also outlined the structure that is basically what FIDE is trying
to do now, if at the second gasp.
Kasparov
was to play a match against the FIDE champion, Ponomariov at the time. Kramnik
would face the winner of the Dortmund 2002 supertournament, which turned to
out to be Peter Leko. Not everyone was smiling but the deal was done and the
chess world would be much the better for it. It’s worth noting that the
current structure is derived from Kramnik’s 2002 proposal.
It didn’t take too long for the wheels to start coming off. FIDE left
Seirawan hanging, Kramnik was unable to get the Leko match sponsored to his
satisfaction. After more FIDE foot-dragging Ponomariov left Kasparov at the
altar in Yalta. What we have now is a remix after two years of delay. It
looks like Kramnik-Leko will finally happen in September. FIDE will have a new
champion in Libya in July and this time around all the players have agreed in
advance that part of their obligation as FIDE champion is to play a unification
match against Kasparov.
If what is in motion now is so similar to what was agreed two years ago, why
the grumbling? Several top players have declined to play in Libya, including
world number two Vishy Anand and stars like Svidler and Shirov. Of them only
Ponomariov has made his reasons known and until that changes it’s best
not to put words in their mouths.
Instead of guessing their – likely diverse – motives we should
note that it’s not as if anyone really asked their approval the first
time around in Prague! The unification deal was met with shrugged shoulders
by many top players. The phrase “let’s just get this over with”
was often heard.
Elo kings Kasparov and Anand, #1 and #2
As Kasparov said above, his results since Prague haven’t helped his case
much and perhaps Ponomariov really does resent his role enough to stay away
from Tripoli. FIDE dealt with him very inconsistently, to put it nicely, but
the fact remains that he missed his golden opportunity and now it will pass
to another.
On the other hand it seems very likely that the dramatically reduced prize
fund has even more to do with the absences. This year’s first prize of
$80,000 is just 20% of that of the 2001 event. Not to accuse others of my own
vices, but I’d be willing to bet even Anand might be there if each prize
was multiplied by five!
AFTER TRIPOLI
What happens next will almost certainly depend on who wins where. If Leko beats
Kramnik the main issue will be getting the sponsorship together. Leko, like
the rest of the chess world, will recognize that while beating a player like
Vladimir Kramnik in a match is a tremendous feat, the title that comes with
victory isn’t worth the shadow of the unified title. Kramnik can say he
beat Kasparov, but at this point beating Kramnik is a little like a boxer beating
the man who beat Tyson but didn’t do much after that.
If
Kramnik wins it’s a different story because he may decide that his signature
in Prague doesn’t mean anything and that his win over Leko has extended
his reign as champion. This danger is why it is so important to make everyone
involved re-commit to unification. It has always been better to get players
to agree to things before they win matches. Afterwards they tend to be a little
foggy on the details.
Kramnik might decide he’s got a few more years, Kasparov may think the
prize fund is too small, Ilyumzhinov might see something shiny on the ground
and wander off. These guys must be held accountable for their commitments. They,
including the ACP, should make it clear that they still support unification.
With that in mind we'll keep running these photos of them signing in Prague.
Kramnik, Kasparov, and Ilyumzhinov committing to unification
Kasparov had this to say regarding his own role and the match against the FIDE
champion:
"Right now there is no money, no date. I think Ilyumzhinov is waiting
for the winner of Libya before putting together a plan. The winner can change
things considerably. FIDE can always come up with a small prize fund, get it
out of the way and move forward. But there are a few players who could attract
significant sponsorship from their native countries, Mickey Adams and Nigel
Short, potentially. Topalov, perhaps. Grischuk or Morozevich would mean Ilyumzhinov
is dealing with Russian officials, which also changes things. The name of the
winner and the country of origin dictate Ilyumzhinov’s next steps.
As for the match after that it depends on the winner of Kramnik-Leko. With
Leko the resolution will be easier because he won’t have the credibility
Kramnik had from beating me. In 2000 Kramnik beat the undisputed number one
player. If Leko wins he won’t be able to say anything similar. If Kramnik
wins, the will of the chess world will be very important. If there is sufficient
pressure on him to unify the title maybe he will play."
PCA / ACP / FIDE AND CHESS SPONSORSHIP
So far we seem to be able to judge the wind in the Kramnik camp by watching
the ACP. Kasparov is enthusiastic about the organization’s potential but
concerned that its leader, French GM Joel Lautier, is using the organization
to back his friend (and fellow board member) Kramnik’s interests. Their
arguments are “all prepared in the same kitchen” as Kasparov put
it. If the ACP sanctions the Kramnik-Leko match as the only relevant one it
would deal a serious blow to unification.
I very much hope that doesn’t come to pass. The ACP has been fighting
hard in the past month to keep FIDE honest with its draconian player agreements.
They need to keep working with them without letting the disagreements turn into
outright rejection. Kasparov laughs to open the topic of the recent harsh criticism
of FIDE by Lautier and Seirawan.
"
You hear all these things about “FIDE is dead, FIDE’s not good.”
Yasser Seirawan has an interview, Joel Lautier saying that FIDE has ruined everything.
I seem to recall hearing these words about ten years ago and it was me who said
them! The irony is to look back at who helped topple the Professional Chess
Association back then, who criticized it the most, and you have the same names.
Yasser Seirawan, Joel Lautier, Carsten Hensel, Stefan Loeffler. These people
took concrete steps, wrote articles, made a lot of fuss, scared Intel to death
and made sure the PCA would never get an extension of the contract."
Several
times while discussing this topic Kasparov said his remarks were about setting
the record straight and learning from history and not about settling scores,
but it’s clear he doesn’t mind doing both at the same time. He feels
that his work and the millions of Intel dollars it brought in aren’t properly
appreciated. Those who criticized the PCA now seem to be on the other side.
Kasparov’s voice rises as he wonders where they were back in 1995 and
how they can criticize when they have no track record of bringing in money while
he has brought in millions for chessplayers.
"It’s important to mention that there was one moment in the history
of chess in which the game had real corporate sponsorship and that was 1994-95.
Not just a one-off event, it was a two-year contract and advertising money,
pure sponsorship. Not like IBM running a special science project, it was true
commercial sponsorship like any other professional sport.
These prizes weren’t small amounts either. We’re talking hundreds
of thousands of dollars. Kramnik, Ivanchuk, Anand, all of them into six figures
for the PCA Grand Prix events. Then you have the Groningen interzonal, I think
that was $250,000 and then the candidates matches. In the final match against
Anand I think he collected $600,000, before taxes. Anand got his shot at the
world title and all because of real professional sponsorship."
Kasparov wants it on the record that those currently attacking FIDE and pushing
for corporate sponsorship are the same people who were the most active critics
of his efforts to do the same thing with the PCA a decade ago. Back then Seirawan
and Lautier were shouting about how Kasparov had “hijacked the title”
and how FIDE was the only hope.
Chess writer Stefan Loeffler is singled out for particular condemnation. The
entire time the PCA was active he was publishing devastating articles about
the PCA in the Süddeutsche Zeitung, the giant newspaper the Intel sponsors
were reading. The money was coming from the Munich subsidiary and every week
they read criticism and scandals, not a single positive word about how a local
company was sponsoring great chess events around the world.
Coming back to the present, Kasparov takes issue with Seirawan blaming
his 2003 match against Deep Junior for helping ruin Prague. "That
match brought FIDE very close to real commercial sponsorship. FIDE was wrong,
but not for staging the match. They were wrong for not following up on it. Sponsors
and TV were lining up for new chess events and FIDE disappeared."
I can personally vouch for the fact that the money-man at X3D still turns purple
at the mere mention of Ilyumzhinov’s name. Here we had a serious company
with big plans for chess and FIDE at first joins in and then simply stops taking
their calls. The million on that match is the least of FIDE’s problems
in the greater scheme of things.
And at least that million got results! It bought more publicity than the other
twenty million Ilyumzhinov had spent since 1997 combined. Compare the empty
halls of the 1999 Las Vegas KO with the Kasparov vs. Machine games being shown
live on ESPN. If getting that sort of publicity is a mistake it’s not
a bad kind to make.
There
is a huge difference between Kasparov’s criticisms of FIDE, both now and
then, and the complaints leveled at the organization by the ACP. They make it
sound like the money itself is the issue, that if FIDE paid out more and bigger
checks – like they did a few years ago – things would be fine. This
reflects a lack of imagination. Kasparov is saying, and has been saying for
years, that the structure itself is sick.
Like a patient with a damaged immune system FIDE rejects everything that could
help it. From the Junior match and the sponsorship opportunities it represented
to the Seirawan Grandmaster steering committee, FIDE is unable to handle a good
thing when it falls into their hands. This reflects fundamental problems that
have been around for twenty years.
Now FIDE’s fortunes are tied to Ilyumzhinov and he is tied to the political
pendulum of Russia. If he enjoyed the same privileges as ten years ago, even
five years ago, a million dollars here or there wouldn't make a difference.
Kramnik, Lautier, and their ACP brethren would be better off addressing the
root causes and not the money itself. Whether Ilyumzhinov rustles up more money
or is replaced by a new chess sugar daddy it still won’t solve the real
problems of FIDE, which is unable to function like a professional sports organization.
If FIDE bounces back with more shadow cash, will they again be seen as the
good guys by these critics, as they were from 1993-2000? I hope not, especially
since the money is as much a symptom of the problem as the current lack of money.
As long as it is coming from such dubious sources it will be nearly impossible
to establish a structure that can deal with true commercial sponsorship.
Essential reading
In the next few days we will be publishing a new "open letter"
and interview by Ponomariov and reports on ACP controversies with FIDE. At the
end of it all you, dear readers of ChessBase.com, can express your opinion on
the situation in the chess world today. In order to prepare for the momentous
task we advocate a careful study of the following documents. Taking a week off
your regular job might be in order. But it could be worth your while. Maybe
you will come up with a proposal that gains widespread acceptance and solves
the problems of the chess world.
